Chinese Scammer Reveals His Secrets

Header

Author: James Greening

June 21, 2021

It’s well-known that there are several organized scam rings operating from China that seem to be solely in the business of duping customers through fake online stores. We have written extensively about humongous networks of online stores such as Uniqueness and ChicV Ltd. that have terrible customer reviews across the board. 

If they aren’t outright scams such as sites that never deliver the products or steal credit card details, they may bait-and-switch customers using misleading ads on social media.

A big part of these misleading ads are images stolen from legitimate companies and artists, including one-of-a-kind creations costing hundreds of dollars that aren’t even for sale any longer. Artists are badly hit by these scams as many confused customers think that they were duped by the original artist, not realizing that they purchased from a website operated by a Chinese scam ring. 

These scams are thriving as there is little to no recourse for the artists whose intellectual property is being stolen. Internet companies shirk responsibility as they have no legal obligation or financial incentive to help in taking down these scams. Law enforcement is of no help too as these scams are carried out internationally.

Even taking down a single website requires extensive documentation and repeated back-and-forth with multiple parties involved. In the end, it barely even matters as the Chinese scam rings quickly replace the deleted websites with new ones.

Even though we know that e-commerce scams may be run by multi-billion dollar Chinese corporations, there is almost no information available about how these companies operate on a daily basis. However, we recently got a rare insight into these scams by a Chinese scammer himself.

The ‘Saw Art’ Father’s Day Scam

A post popped up recently in the Facebook group ‘Facebook Ad Scambusters!’ which is dedicated to exposing scam Facebook ads. It was made by an artist who we shall call the ‘Saw Lady’. She makes art out of vintage saws and Chinese scammers discovered that her work is the perfect Father's Day scam. Images of her creations were taken without permission and plastered all over ads on Facebook.

A ‘Scammer Boy’ from China had the bright idea to reach out to ‘Saw Lady’ to ask for more of her original images. In trying to win her trust, he told her some interesting things no scammer has revealed before.

‘Scammer Boy’ Tells All

He works in Nanchang in a brand new ‘office’. There are 100 of them young ‘boys’, around 24 years old, in this ‘company’ office. There are many companies as part of the scam ring. This one is considered ‘advertising’ and made $10 million last year.

The ‘boys' are responsible for finding products (ie. stealing images and content) to use for limited runs such as for holidays like Father's Day. They care about money more than anything and are psychologically conditioned via training to hate Americans.

The ‘boys’ source the product. Then the factories make a limited run of a cheap copy, and ship it to the bait-and-switch victims. It's a game of who can sell the most scam items.

The offices are set up as a common workspace to encourage competition. ‘Scammer Boy’ was jealous of the guy sitting next to him, who had sold 3,000 of the scam saws in the past two weeks, mostly to Californians. 

Each 'employee' has 8 Facebook pages, 3 ecommerce stores and 10 Facebook

ad accounts at any given time. They develop their own scams and then share. Each 'kid' picks their products to promote, runs the pages, stores and ads. If something isn't selling, they focus instead on what is. They aren't really given an ad budget, but can't lose money in the end. 

He told the ‘Saw Lady’ he contacted her since she managed to get two of his ads pulled, with 10,000 views each - and was quite upset. She was the topic of the 'lunch table'.

A few victims have received their bait-and-switch items. The Chinese product is a miniature copy about 8” with a 'wooden' handle and not a 24” to 28” vintage saw like the originals. They copied her photos and content including her logo and warnings about authenticity.

The Effect of this Scam on ‘Saw Lady’

Not surprisingly, it is unnerving for the victim to see photos of herself and posts she wrote in her voice (first person) being plagiarized on the scam sites in their entirety.

There has been so much aggravation and devastation to her and her small business. Sadly, it won't be over when the Father's Day scam ads end. When the bait-and-switch items arrive from China, duped and angry victims will search for these since-closed scam Facebook pages and ecommerce stores. Confused, some will likely find her site and blame her, hurting her reputation - though she is a victim too in all this.

There is a silver lining to this ordeal. She's sold more saws in the past two weeks than she did in all of 2017. She got 500 orders - more than she did before Christmas. So many

orders in fact that Etsy has removed her store from search until she gets caught up. Some people ARE doing due diligence and looking up the source of this art when they see the ad. The number pales in comparison, however, to those falling for the scam.

Report a Scam!

Have you fallen for a hoax, bought a fake product? Report the site and warn others!

Help & Info

Popular Stories

As the influence of the internet rises, so does the prevalence of online scams. There are fraudsters making all kinds of claims to trap victims online - from fake investment opportunities to online stores - and the internet allows them to operate from any part of the world with anonymity. The ability to spot online scams is an important skill to have as the virtual world is increasingly becoming a part of every facet of our lives. The below tips will help you identify the signs which can indicate that a website could be a scam. Common Sense: Too Good To Be True When looking for goods online, a great deal can be very enticing. A Gucci bag or a new iPhone for half the price? Who wouldn’t want to grab such a deal? Scammers know this too and try to take advantage of the fact. If an online deal looks too good to be true, think twice and double-check things. The easiest way to do this is to simply check out the same product at competing websites (that you trust). If the difference in prices is huge, it might be better to double-check the rest of the website. Check Out the Social Media Links Social media is a core part of ecommerce businesses these days and consumers often expect online shops to have a social media presence. Scammers know this and often insert logos of social media sites on their websites. Scratching beneath the surface often reveals this fu

So the worst has come to pass - you realise you parted with your money too fast, and the site you used was a scam - what now? Well first of all, don’t despair!! If you think you have been scammed, the first port of call when having an issue is to simply ask for a refund. This is the first and easiest step to determine whether you are dealing with a genuine company or scammers. Sadly, getting your money back from a scammer is not as simple as just asking.  If you are indeed dealing with scammers, the procedure (and chance) of getting your money back varies depending on the payment method you used. PayPal Debit card/Credit card Bank transfer Wire transfer Google Pay Bitcoin PayPal If you used PayPal, you have a strong chance of getting your money back if you were scammed. On their website, you can file a dispute within 180 calendar days of your purchase. Conditions to file a dispute: The simplest situation is that you ordered from an online store and it has not arrived. In this case this is what PayPal states: "If your order never shows up and the seller can't provide proof of shipment or delivery, you'll get a full refund. It's that simple." The scammer has sent you a completely different item. For example, you ordered a PlayStation 4, but instead received only a Playstation controller.  The condition of the item was misrepresented on the product page. This could be the